Sun 29 Mar 2009
Shrimp Patties with Citrus and Avocado Salad
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A few days ago, I called home during the afternoon to say hi to John and give him an update on how my day was looking. When I have a sense of when I’m coming home, I try to remember to let him know – mostly so 8pm doesn’t jump out of my file drawer and say “hey, you should probably share your plans with the other person in your home who eats dinner so he can, you know, decide whether or not to wait for you.” 8pm can be kind of judgmental, but it always has a point.
So I called. And interrupted a process that will henceforth be called “baconing.” John and a friend were knee-deep (read: waist-deep) in making bacon logs. They found the recipe on the internet and have been dying to make it since. If you are interested, Google it. Okay, fine, here’s a picture.
You are looking at the aftermath of 7 lbs of bacon, an uncalculated quantity of peppers, onions, bratwurst, and several hours of work. You slice it like a meatloaf, suppress your gag reflex, and chow down. Well, one does. I didn’t exactly “chow” – more like “nibbled.”
Upon arriving home, I was greeted with a weak “helloooo” from the couch. An empty bottle of Pepto lay abandoned on the kitchen counter, and a dense fug of bacon filled the air. A light dinner was most definitely in order. When I asked John if I could share this story here, he said yes, so long as I didn’t describe the bacon logs as “vile.” They aren’t vile, they taste like rainbows. Rainbows made of meat and staffed by dyspeptic leprechauns.
In a recent issue of Living, I saw a recipe for shrimp burgers in pita with some sort of slaw. The patties themselves looked delicious, but I wasn’t moved by the pita or the slaw. On Erev Bacon Log, I wanted a light protein to go with a salad rather than something bready like a pita. I also wasn’t interested in the yogurt sauce Martha used to bind the shrimp mixture together. In truth, I didn’t have any appropriate yogurt – something tells me that lowfat peach chiffon would make a truly awful binding agent for shrimp.
Such is often the case with off the cuff cooking; you have some, but not all, of the ingredients you’d like and going to the store will take too much time. It’s necessary to fight this pitfall with two weapons. First, it’s important to keep a well-stocked pantry and fridge at all times; watch the pantry category here for more insight into what I recommend you keep on hand. Second, it’s equally important to learn to be able to adapt what you have laying around into something you might want to eat, even if it’s not exactly what the recipe calls for. Obviously, there are times when this is a bad idea. You can’t get too frisky with anything that involves leavening, and you generally need to maintain proportions of elements (fats, acids, bases, liquids, etc.). But that leaves a lot of room for playing.
So behold, the result of my tinkering.
Shrimp Cakes with Orange and Avocado Salad
Serves 2
12-14 large shrimp, peeled and deveined
2 T light mayonnaise
1 T seasoned breadcrumbs
1 T buttermilk
2 large oranges
1 T olive oil
½ large, ripe avocado cut into 1” pieces
1 spring onion, diced
4 large leaves romaine lettuce
Salt and pepper, to taste
Preheat the oven to 350.
Pulse approximately 1/3 of the shrimp in a food processor until a rough paste forms. Set aside.
Using a chef’s knife, chop the remaining shrimp into rough chunks, approximately ½” each. Combine the chopped shrimp with the contents of the food processor in a medium bowl. Stir in the mayonnaise, buttermilk, breadcrumbs, and a light helping of salt and pepper until fully combined.
Dampen your hands so the shrimp mixture won’t stick to you. Divide the mixture into four equal quadrants in the bowl, scooping out one quadrant at a time to make patties. Gently shape each patty and place on a parchment-lined cookie sheet. Press each patty down with your fingers or the back of a spoon to make them nice and even.
Bake the patties for 12 minutes or until they are beginning to turn golden and any liquid around the edges has firmed up.
While the patties are cooking, peel the oranges. If you want to peel them by hand, go for it. For salads, I like to make sure I’m skipping all the pith and I do it with a knife. The easy way to make this happen is to slice off each end to make two flat sides. Set it on one of them on a cutting board, and make several skinning slices with your knife as you work around the orange, following its natural shape as you go. If you are a little careful, you won’t leave much waste behind on the peel, and you’ll end up with pretty orange sides all around.
Slice your oranges into narrow disks, then into quarters and throw in a medium bowl. Add the olive oil and a generous amount of fresh ground pepper. Mix with your hands to fully coat the oranges and refrigerate.
When the patties come out of the oven, use a spatula to transfer them to a plate. If you want the outsides to be a little crisp, you can gently sear them in a non-stick pan over medium heat. While they cool slightly, wash, dry, and chop the romaine. I like mine quite thin, but go with what feels good. An easy way to get lovely, uniform ribbons from your leaves is to stack them all on top of each other, then roll up lengthwise. Holding the roll steady with one hand, use your chef’s knife to cut even ribbons perpendicular to the length of the roll.
Add the romaine, avocado, and spring onion to the orange salad and gently mix with your hands to fully dress the new elements. Portion between two plates (I use shallow pasta bowls for a dish like this) and top with your shrimp patties. Enjoy with a pale, hoppy beer or crisp white wine.
Note – this year has been incredible for oranges in California. We are inundated with the most wonderful, sweet, ruby-fleshed orbs. For this recipe, however, I wanted a little more snap to the citrus taste, so I added a squeeze of lemon to the salad before chilling the oranges. If you are using really sweet, really red oranges, I suggest you gig it a little with some stronger acid. In a pinch, a little white wine vinegar will work. You could also try the salad with grapefruit in place of oranges, but know that the stronger taste will compete a bit more with the shrimp.




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So — been using this thing for something like a few months now and I keep coming back, so figured I’d say something since someone asked me a few days back. Am UK based, mainly bet football and racing, nothing mad, just so you know where I’m coming from.
The reason I started using it was genuinely embarrassing — I never could get my head round what an ew return actually was when the place terms changed. Basically I’d eyeball it and then be surprised. These days I type the odds in first, every time, even a simple single bet.
The single bet calculator tool is the part I use most — you drop in the price and your stake and you get profit and total return instantly, fractions or decimals. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — acca and treble returns, lucky 15s, a yankee, honestly that’s where I always mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here acca odds calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
The thing that actually shifted things for me was the geekier extras. They’ve got an implied probability calculator which shows you the overround, and there’s the kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly because full kelly is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is handy too for when I’m spreading across selections.
Not all sunshine though. The interface looks very functional, let’s say — zero flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it works though the bigger tables are a squeeze. And nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — fine by me but you asked.
Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, works. If you still works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — saved me a load of arguments with the bookie.
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How I found it was actually a bit daft — I couldn’t ever work out what an ew return actually was when the place terms changed. I used to just eyeball it and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in before every slip, even the boring singles.
The single bet calculator tool is the part I’m on daily — type in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return straight away, either odds format. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — acca and treble maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, and that’s where I’d always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it lives at how to work out an each way bet — free, no signup.
The thing that really changed how I bet was the nerdier tools. They’ve got an odds-to-probability calculator that shows how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too when I’m covering two or three runners.
It’s not perfect mind. The design is very functional, let’s say — not much flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it works though the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. And nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but you asked.
So yeah. Free, barely any ads, works. If anyone even now works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — it’s saved me a load of arguments with the bookie.
So — been using this thing for something like four months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me last week. Am UK based, generally bet football and racing, nothing mad, for context.
What got me on it was actually embarrassing — I could never work out what an each way payout actually was when the place terms changed. I’d just eyeball it and get a shock. Now type the odds in first, every time, even the boring singles.
Their single bet calculator is the part I’m on daily — you drop in the price and your stake and you get the return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — acca and treble returns, lucky 15s, yankees, which is where I always mess it up. If you want a look, it lives at each way double calculator — free, no signup.
What really made a difference is the nerdier tools. There’s an probability thing and it makes obvious the overround, plus a kelly criterion calculator — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit when I’m splitting a race.
Not all sunshine though. Its design looks pretty plain — no polish, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On my phone it’s usable but the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. And no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but worth saying.
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So — been using this thing for about five months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me the other day. I’m in the UK, mostly stick to footie and the horses, small stakes, so take it how you like.
The reason I started using it was genuinely embarrassing — I never could get my head round what an e/w return actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just eyeball it and get a shock. Now I stick my stake in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator tool is the one I’m on daily — you drop in stake and odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. Same tool covers the multiples — acca and treble returns, lucky 15s, yankees, honestly that’s where I’d always got it wrong. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at each way trixie and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
What actually made a difference were the geekier tools. There’s an implied probability calculator which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is decent when I’m spreading across selections.
It’s not perfect mind. Its design looks pretty plain — no frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it works although the bigger tables are a squeeze. And no app, it’s a website and that’s it — doesn’t bother me but you asked.
So yeah. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, works. If anyone still does the maths on paper, try it — saved me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.
OK — been on this thing for about six months now and I keep coming back, so figured I’d write something up since a mate asked me last week. Am based in the UK, mainly do football and horses, small stakes, so take it how you like.
The reason I started using it was honestly a bit daft — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an each way return actually was once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d guess and get a shock. These days I type the odds in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.
The single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — type in stake and odds and it spits out the return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. It also handles the fiddly ones — trebles maths, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here how to calculate a lucky 15 and it’s free with no account nonsense.
One thing that really shifted things for me were the geekier extras. There’s an probability converter and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, and a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too for when I’m spreading across selections.
Couple of gripes. Its design looks pretty plain — not much frills, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s fine though the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. And no app, just the site — fine by me but you asked.
So yeah. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, works. If anyone honestly works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — it’s saved me a fair few arguments with the bookie.
Right — have been messing about with this thing for about five months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. I’m UK based, mainly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I’m coming from.
How I found it was honestly embarrassing — I could never work out what an each way return would be with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just wing it and then be surprised. These days I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator is the one I open most — you put in your stake, the odds and it shows the return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — acca and treble maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, which is where I always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it’s here accumulator betting calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
The thing that really shifted things for me was the geekier extras. The implied probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, and there’s the kelly calculator — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutch tool is decent if I’m splitting a race.
It’s not perfect mind. Its interface is a bit basic — not much polish, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On mobile it works but the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. And no proper app, just the site — doesn’t bother me but you asked.
So yeah. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, does the job. If anyone honestly does the maths on paper, try it — saved me plenty of arguments with the bookie.
Right — been on this thing for something like a few months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d chuck my thoughts in since a mate asked me the other day. Am in the UK, mostly bet football and racing, nothing mad, so take it how you like.
How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I couldn’t ever work out what an e/w payout would be when the place terms changed. I’d just guess and moan when the payout landed. These days I stick my stake in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.
The single bet calculator is the bit I use most — type in stake and odds and it spits out the return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it’s over at accumulator odds checker and it’s free with no account nonsense.
The thing that really shifted things for me were the more serious extras. There’s an odds-to-probability calculator that shows what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly criterion calculator — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too for when I’m spreading across selections.
Couple of gripes. The interface looks very functional, let’s say — not much frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On my phone it’s fine but the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s no app, just the site — fine by me but you asked.
Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does the job. If you honestly does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.
Right — have been messing about with this thing for maybe a few months now and it’s stuck on my phone, reckon I’d chuck my thoughts in since someone asked me the other day. I’m UK based, mainly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
The reason I started using it was genuinely pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew return would be once you get five places instead of three. I’d just guess and get a shock. These days I type the odds in first, every time, even a simple single bet.
Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — type in the price and your stake and it shows profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the bigger stuff — trebles maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, which is where most people I know mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here matched bonus bet calculator — free, no signup.
The thing that actually changed how I bet were the nerdier extras. They’ve got an odds-to-probability converter which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly criterion tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit for when I’m covering two or three runners.
Couple of gripes. Its interface feels a bit basic — not much polish, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it’s fine although the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. And no proper app, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me just flagging it.
Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, works. If you even now adds it up in their head, try it — saved me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.
Right — been on this thing for something like six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me the other day. Am based in the UK, mostly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I’m coming from.
How I found it was honestly a bit daft — I could never figure out what an e/w return would be when the place terms changed. I used to just eyeball it and get a shock. Now type the odds in before every slip, even a simple single bet.
Their single bet calculator tool is the one I open most — you put in your stake, the odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. Same tool covers the multiples — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, which is where I always lose track. If you want a look, it lives at calculator matched betting and it’s free with no account nonsense.
One thing that genuinely made a difference was the more serious tools. There’s an probability calculator which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutch tool is handy too if I’m spreading across selections.
It’s not perfect mind. Its layout is pretty plain — no polish, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it’s fine though the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. And nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me just flagging it.
Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, works. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, try it — saved me plenty of arguments with the bookie.
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OK — been on this thing for maybe four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d write something up since a lad on another thread asked me last week. I’m UK based, generally do football and horses, small stakes, so take it how you like.
The reason I started using it was genuinely a bit daft — I never could get my head round what an ew payout would be when the place terms changed. I’d just guess and get a shock. Now type the odds in first, every time, even the boring singles.
Their single bet calculator tool is the part I use most — you drop in stake and odds and it spits out the return instantly, either odds format. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — acca and treble maths, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it’s here each way treble calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.
What actually changed how I bet is the more serious bits. The odds-to-probability converter and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly calculator — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is handy too for when I’m spreading across selections.
Couple of gripes. Its interface is a bit basic — no polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine although the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. And nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.
So yeah. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. Anyone who even now adds it up in their head, try it — saves me plenty of arguments with the bookie.
So — been using this thing for something like four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, reckon I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me last week. I’m UK based, mostly bet football and racing, nothing mad, so take it how you like.
How I found it was honestly embarrassing — I couldn’t ever work out what an each way payout actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator tool is the part I’m on daily — type in stake and odds and it spits out returns with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, which is where I always got it wrong. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here kelly bet calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
What genuinely made a difference were the geekier tools. The odds-to-probability thing that shows the overround, and a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is decent if I’m spreading across selections.
Couple of gripes. The interface looks pretty plain — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine although the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. There’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame just flagging it.
So yeah. Doesn’t cost anything, no ads shoved in your face, works. If you still does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.
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So — been on this thing for maybe four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d write something up since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, generally do football and horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
How I found it was honestly pretty stupid — I never could get my head round what an e/w return actually came to when the place terms changed. I’d just wing it and moan when the payout landed. These days I punch the numbers in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — type in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the bigger stuff — acca and treble maths, lucky 15s, yankees, and that’s where most people I know got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it lives at implied odds calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
The thing that really made a difference was the more serious bits. There’s an probability thing which shows you the overround, plus a kelly tool — I use half kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too if I’m splitting a race.
Couple of gripes. Its interface looks very functional, let’s say — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it’s fine though the acca grid are a squeeze. And no proper app, it’s browser only — slight shame just flagging it.
So yeah. Free, no ads shoved in your face, works. Anyone who honestly does the maths on paper, have a look — it’s saved me plenty of “wait, that’s it?” moments.
Right — been using this thing for about six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d chuck my thoughts in since a mate asked me the other day. I’m based in the UK, mainly stick to footie and the horses, small stakes, for context.
The reason I started using it was actually a bit daft — I never could get my head round what an ew return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I’d just guess and then be surprised. These days I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.
The single bet calculator is the bit I’m on daily — type in stake and odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. Same tool covers the fiddly ones — trebles returns, lucky 15s, yankees, which is where I’d always mess it up. If you want a look, it lives at each way accumulator calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.
What really shifted things for me is the geekier bits. There’s an odds-to-probability calculator which shows you the overround, plus a kelly tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit for when I’m splitting a race.
Not all sunshine though. The design feels pretty plain — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine but the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — slight shame but you asked.
Right, that’s me. Free, no ads shoved in your face, works. If anyone even now adds it up in their head, have a look — saved me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.
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So — been using this thing for maybe a few months now and I keep coming back, so figured I’d chuck my thoughts in since someone asked me a few days back. I’m in the UK, generally do football and horses, small stakes, for context.
What got me on it was honestly a bit daft — I never could figure out what an ew payout actually was when the place terms changed. I used to just wing it and get a shock. Now I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even the boring singles.
The single bet calculator tool is the one I’m on daily — you put in stake and odds and you get returns straight away, fractions or decimals. There’s also the bigger stuff — trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that’s where I’d always got it wrong. Have a go yourself, it’s here bet calculator trixie — free, no signup.
One thing that really made a difference is the nerdier tools. There’s an probability thing which shows you the overround, and a kelly calculator — I use half kelly because full kelly is terrifying. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit if I’m splitting a race.
It’s not perfect mind. Its layout looks pretty plain — no frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On mobile it works although the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s no app, it’s browser only — slight shame just flagging it.
Right, that’s me. Free, barely any ads, does what it says. If anyone even now works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saves me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.
OK — been on this thing for maybe six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me a few days back. Am in the UK, generally do football and horses, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.
What got me on it was genuinely pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever figure out what an each way payout actually was once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d wing it and get a shock. Now type the odds in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.
The single bet calculator is the one I use most — type in stake and odds and you get returns straight away, fractions or decimals. There’s also the fiddly ones — trebles maths, lucky 15s, yankees, and that’s where most people I know mess it up. If you want a look, it’s over at super heinz flag calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.
What genuinely shifted things for me is the nerdier tools. There’s an probability converter and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly staking tool — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too when I’m covering two or three runners.
Not all sunshine though. The interface feels a bit basic — zero frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it’s usable although the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me just flagging it.
Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. If you even now does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a fair few arguments with the bookie.
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OK — been using this thing for about four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, reckon I’d write something up since a mate asked me last week. I’m in the UK, mainly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
How I found it was honestly pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever work out what an e/w return would be once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d eyeball it and get a shock. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even the boring singles.
The single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — you drop in your stake, the odds and you get returns straight away, either odds format. There’s also the multiples — trebles maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, and that’s where most people I know mess it up. If you want a look, it’s here super heinz bet365 and it’s free with no account nonsense.
What really made a difference were the nerdier tools. They’ve got an odds-to-probability converter which shows you what margin’s baked in, and there’s the kelly criterion calculator — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutching one is decent when I’m splitting a race.
Couple of gripes. The design is pretty plain — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it’s fine although the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. And no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me just flagging it.
Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. If you even now works out returns on a calculator app, try it — saves me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.
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Right — been using this thing for maybe five months now and it’s stuck on my phone, reckon I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me last week. I’m in the UK, mainly bet football and racing, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.
The reason I started using it was actually pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever work out what an each way return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now stick my stake in first, every time, even a simple single bet.
The single bet calculator is the bit I open most — type in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, which is where most people I know mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at dutch betting calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.
What genuinely made a difference is the nerdier bits. They’ve got an probability thing which shows you what margin’s baked in, and there’s the kelly calculator — I use half kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is decent for when I’m covering two or three runners.
Couple of gripes. The layout looks very functional, let’s say — not much frills, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it works though the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. There’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but you asked.
Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, works. Anyone who honestly works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saves me a load of arguments with the bookie.
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Right — been using this thing for something like four months now and I keep coming back, reckon I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. Am UK based, mainly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I’m coming from.
The reason I started using it was actually pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an ew payout would be when the place terms changed. Basically I’d eyeball it and then be surprised. Now I stick my stake in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator is the bit I open most — you put in the price and your stake and you get profit and total return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the fiddly ones — trebles maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, and that’s where I always lose track. If you want a look, it’s here 3 way no vig calculator — free, no signup.
The thing that genuinely made a difference were the more serious bits. They’ve got an probability thing which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit for when I’m spreading across selections.
Not all sunshine though. Its interface is a bit basic — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s fine although the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. And no proper app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but you asked.
So yeah. Doesn’t cost anything, no ads shoved in your face, works. If anyone honestly adds it up in their head, give it a go — it’s saved me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.